This week, Will is joined by Tony Pan, CEO and co-founder of Modern Electron, a sustainable heat and power company. Tony shares how there wasn't really a Eureka! moment in the early days of his start-up, just the natural evolution of a good idea. He also explains that he sees energy as the most important driver of modern civilisation and energy access as the key predictor of quality of life, two facts that drive his passion for the work he does.